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Message de schweppes posté le 15-05-2012 à 22:26:48 (S | E | F)
Bonjour,

Pouvez-vous m'aider s'il vous plaît car il faut décrire une image d'un jardin avec une cabine téléphonique anglaise au centre du jardin et l'analyser en cherchant pourquoi etc ... voilà ce que j'ai écrit :

This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photograph. It’s perhaps taken in a studio or in the real life. The setting takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not sure. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can see a maple and that’s not necessarily in China too.
In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we can see a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone box. It’s colourful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; this is usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone box came up to there. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who have can buy this, in order to decorate the garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box. This phone box is maybe broken, or it was buying when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of the nationalization; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. In this aim, he changed the phone box in the streets, in order to have most recent and cheap models. Margaret Thatcher, the accountant general at this moment, was very important and had really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colors and it’s unusually. Beyond, this phone box, who is not at his place evoke the memory of the England history and the problems know by the country.

Est-ce que vous pensez que cela suffit ? Ma conjugaison et ma grammaire sont-elles correctes ?
Merci pour votre aide :S

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Modifié par lucile83 le 15-05-2012 22:35


Réponse: Description/ image de lucile83, postée le 16-05-2012 à 19:06:03 (S | E)
Hello,

Anyone? thanks



Réponse: Description/ image de notrepere, postée le 16-05-2012 à 19:18:06 (S | E)
Hello

This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photograph. It’s perhaps taken in a studio or in the real life. The setting takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants' colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not surecertain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can see a maple and that’s not necessarily in China too. (Je ne comprends pas ce que vous voulez vire.)
In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we can see a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone box. It’s colourful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; this is usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone box came up to there. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who have can buy this, in order to decorate the garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box. This phone box is maybe broken, or it was buying(temps) when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of the nationalization; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. In this aim, he (une personne?) changed the phone box in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheap models. Margaret Thatcher, the accountant general Prime Minister at this momentthat time, was very important and had really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture (verbe manquant) very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colors and it’s unusually. Beyond, this phone box, who is not at his place evoke the memory of the England's history and the problems know by the country.

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Modifié par notrepere le 16-05-2012 19:58



Réponse: Description/ image de kadzona, postée le 16-05-2012 à 19:44:12 (S | E)
Hello from the UK

I would also add a suggestion about your text and your spelling. If, as you suppose, the picture you're describing is of a garden and a 'phone box in the UK, it might be a good idea to use British English spelling, where appropriate, and not American English. notrepère has highlighted "colors" but there is also "nationalization".

You also refer to "Margaret Thatcher, the accountant general . . .": this is not a term that was ever used about Margaret Thatcher. What position in government did she occupy in the 1980s? The office of Accountant General was abolished in 1872.

Good luck
Kadzona




Réponse: Description/ image de violet91, postée le 16-05-2012 à 22:15:40 (S | E)
Hello schweppes,

Aux deux interventions précédentes , j'ajouterai :

- A colour photograph : vous avez donné le ton : British English, British spelling. No ' color' and ' nationalization' plus bas.
- Terminaison de substantifs /métiers : dans la famille des ' ers' : teacher, baker, killer...photograph--. Votre erreur est courante.
- Comme en bon français et dans la vie, il faut varier les plaisirs et les expressions. There is, there are : une fois, ça va. I ou we can see : ne pas trop le répéter. Verbe être seul ; ok. Une maison, une cabine ' stands' . Chercher des synonymes dans d'autres cas.
- A maple ? Vous êtes sûre (vous connaissez les feuilles ? Vous voyez le sirop ? Au Canada, oui , en GB ? Je n'en ai pas vu sauf à l'arboretum...mais je ne connais pas tout.
...and a maple in China , j'en doute . Ce ' China' est insolite.
- Vous connaissez l'expression pour 'ni...ni'...'soit..soit? Quand la négation est déjà passée , on ne peut pas clore avec ' too'. Either.
- Noms abstraits et généralités : 0 article. Life, love, death...
- A ' setting' n'est pas un événement ou action which ' takes place in ' : The scene does.
- Probably, perhaps, not necessarilly , not certain...seraient beaucoup mieux exprimés et' rentables' (en points) en utilisant des aux. modaux : could, can, might, may, must ....
- Have can : woops! woops ! Conjuguez to be able .Il existe un verbe approprié à ce qu'on a les moyens de s'acheter.
- Les démonstratifs : this > présent ou à venir. # that > éloigné, péjoratif ou passé.
- Conjonction du comparatif de supériorité : more interesting ...---/ dearer ....--- (as ...as = comparatif d'égalité).
- ' It was XX ( la période des)' grim years '.
- The government = collectif singulier qui ; en anglais, n'est pas plus masculin sg. que féminin sg ! De nombreux membres = justice, army, police...donc pronom personnel sujet ? un pluriel.
- ' Most recent and cheap' : ou vous voulez faire une assertion : des plus récents et bon marché auquel cas , vous ne touchez à rien, sinon , vous pensez à deux comparatifs de supériorité : - un long , un court ; plus récent(s et meilleur marché. ( Ex. more difficult and bigger).Ou encore : les plus et les plus : 2 superlatifs : the most recent and the cheap---(mais il faut alors être sûr de tout ce qui est sur le marché . Peut-être en commerce international?
- The Prime Minister : on est bien d'accord !
- ' important ' pourrait être remplacé par un adj. plus percutant et gratifiant.(la première femme : Prime Minister!
- To have devrait être changé en verbe plus dynamique impliquant les efforts pour arriver au résultat. Obtenir, acquérir...
- Formation des adverbes - adj + suffixe- ly ( = 'ment' en français) : final(adj.), finally (adv.).
- Beyond ...? Voulez-vous dire qu'au delà de l'image , il y a peut-être une symbolique ? Alors ' beyond' quoi ?
- A phone box est assexuée!! Neutre , on dit! ( évitez de penser en français , ne perdez pas de vue la grammaire et les particularités de la langue anglaise !) Pas de 'who' : Ni de ' his'! Pronom relatif sujet neutre et adj. poss. neutre.
- Jamais d'article devant nom de pays ; England , comme Wales, comme France...and so on.
- Aaaaarrrrgggg! Les verbes irréguliers ! part.passé de ' know' ? 3ème colonne !!

Espérant avoir apporté mon ' grain de sel' et un peu plus. A suivre.. Good luck, too.



Réponse: Description/ image de schweppes, postée le 16-05-2012 à 23:19:35 (S | E)
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide à tous

Voilà mon texte corrigé, est-ce mieux ?


This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. It’s perhaps taken in a studio or in real life. The setting takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants' colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stand in France! In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we can see a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; this is usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone stand gets to here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were being able to buy this, in order to decorate the garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box as. This phone box is maybe broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of nationalization; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone houses in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheap models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and had really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusually. Beyond, this displaced phone box, evoke the memory of England's history and the problems knew by the country.

Encore merci !



Réponse: Description/ image de violet91, postée le 17-05-2012 à 10:35:28 (S | E)
Good morning , schweppes ,
Much better ; des exploitations intéressantes , mais encore des points à reprendre , çà et là .

1 ) Où est passé le bel arbre ( utilisez des directions : on the left-on the right ../ top/ bottom/ corner ..) un arbre plus familier à la GB : chêne - oak tree / elm : orme / birch : bouleau/ a beech : hêtre/ a lime tree : tilleul / an apple , cherry ...tree ..?
2 ) Commencez plutôt par le fond , les côtés , le premier plan , puis ici le centre de la photo si la cabine en est le sujet , ce qui frappe l'attention . This ( pour vous ) ; that ( pour son hist .et le passé .
3 ) comment elle est arrivée là : :get ( prétérit ) there . Désormais , elle est là , " plantée à l'éternité ) : it stands ( cf evokes) : 3ème p. sg présent simple !
4 ) Merci de ne pas oublier certaines remarques . V en -ise/ nom ...-ation (orth. anglaise ) -ize, -zation : américaine . Utilisez plutôt des modaux : may + inf sns to ( éventualité); can ( possibilité ), must ( probabilité ) .
5 ) to be au prétérit pluriel ? Were . Donc they ...able to buy it / to afford : they could afford ..
6 ) usual / common / popular : adj !
7 )To know, knew, KNOWN .

....and now, then ?



Réponse: Description/ image de lucile83, postée le 17-05-2012 à 11:22:53 (S | E)
Hello,

This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. It’s perhaps ..mal placé taken in a studio or in real life. The setting takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants' colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stand in France!

In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots.
In the background, we can see répétition a lot of green trees.
In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful !
It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; this is usually in the street.

We don’t know how this phone stand gets to here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were being able to buy this, in order to decorate their garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box as. This phone box is maybe place du mot broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of nationalization ; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone houses in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheap models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and had really helped pourquoi changer de temps? Great Britain to have more money.

I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusually. Beyond, this displaced phone box, evoke the memory of England's history and the problems knew by the country.

Merci de ne pas utiliser un traducteur en ligne qui traduit vos fautes de français.
Exemple:
les problèmes connut par le pays
reverso traduit: the problems knew by the country

Je vois aussi beaucoup de fautes non corrigées alors qu'elles vous ont été signalées.
Merci de les corriger vous-même car personne ne fera ce travail à votre place.



Réponse: Description/ image de schweppes, postée le 17-05-2012 à 17:00:18 (S | E)
This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. Perhaps it’s could be taken in a studio or in real life. The scene takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants' colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stand in France! In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we have a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; that’s usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone stands get to here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were able to buy that, in order to decorate their garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box. Maybe this phone box is broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of nationalization; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone houses in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheap models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and symbolic: she was the first woman Prime Minister! And she really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusual. Additionally, this displaced phone box, evokes the memory of England's history and the back’s problems of the country.

J'ai corrigé toutes les fautes que j'ai pu remarquer de par les messages précédents, mais je ne trouve pas de synonyme pour "nationalization". Dans ce cas-là dois-je mettre les mots "color" pour continuer avec l'anglais américain ?



Réponse: Description/ image de kadzona, postée le 17-05-2012 à 19:43:15 (S | E)
Hello again: you're working hard. However, you don't need a synonym to find the British English spelling of your word "nationalization" - you need a British English dictionary, or at least an English language dictionary which will highlight for you which spelling are British English and which are American English.

Personally, I still have a few dictionaries in book form on my shelves: I strongly recommend them as an addition to on-line resources.

Also, you've now given us "phone houses": this is certainly not a British English term. Those old red things with lots of windows were simply called . . . phone boxes.

Keep trying; your final offering here is a great improvement on the initial text. Kadzona



Réponse: Description/ image de schweppes, postée le 17-05-2012 à 19:57:46 (S | E)
Is "public ownership" more British as "nationalization" ?
And I displace "phone houses" with "phone boxes" ?

Thank you again



Réponse: Description/ image de lucile83, postée le 17-05-2012 à 22:53:38 (S | E)
Hello,

Is "public ownership" more British as than "nationalization" ? ...vous devez modifier l'orthographe, rien d'autre.

And I displace change "phone houses" with into "phone boxes" ?...en anglais on dit phone box/boxes

Vous devez rester dans le BE (British English) donc colour,etc.
Voici de bons dictionnaires anglais.
Lien internet

or
Lien internet

ou encore (avec un double clic)
Lien internet





Réponse: Description/ image de lucile83, postée le 17-05-2012 à 23:07:07 (S | E)
Hello

This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. Perhaps it’s could have been taken in a studio or in real life. The scene takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants' colour... pas de cas possessif: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stand in France!
In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we have a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; that’s usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone stands get to here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were able to buy that, in order to decorate their garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box. Maybe this phone box is broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of nationalization...orthographe; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone houses in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheap the cheapest models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and symbolic: she was the first woman Prime Minister! And she really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusual. Additionally, this displaced phone box (,) evokes the memory of ...ce qui suit ne va pas England's history and the back’s problems of the country.

Des fautes oubliées et j'ai l'impression que vous en avez rajouté.
Time for bed...I leave it to the USA



Réponse: Description/ image de schweppes, postée le 18-05-2012 à 07:02:36 (S | E)
This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. Perhaps it’s could have been taken in a studio or in real life. The scene takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stands in France! In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we have a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; that’s usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone comes over to here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were able to buy that, in order to decorate their garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular as a French phone box. Maybe this phone box is broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of public ownership; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone boxes in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheapest models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and symbolic: she was the first woman Prime Minister! And she really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusual. Additionally, this displaced phone box, evokes the memory of Qu'est ce qui ne va pas ?England's history and the old problems of the country.




Réponse: Description/ image de notrepere, postée le 18-05-2012 à 07:36:36 (S | E)
Hello

This document is a colour photograph taken by an anonymous photographer. Perhaps it’s (=It is + could have ne va pas; il reste de supprimer le 's) could have been taken in a studio or in real life. The scene takes place in a garden. It’s probably spring or summer because of the sun and the plants colour: green. It is most certainly taken in Great Britain, because of a red phone box, but it’s not certain. It’s not necessarily taken in England; we can have a red telephone stands in France! In the foreground, we can see a grey watering can in front of big flowerpots. In the background, we have a lot of green trees. In the middle of the picture, there is a red phone booth. It’s colorful(orthographe)! It is amazing and original to see a phone box in a garden; that’s usually in the street.
We don’t know how this phone comes over to box came to be here. Maybe this is the garden of rich people who were able to buy that, in order to decorate their garden. Indeed, an English phone box is more beautiful and popular than a French phone box. Maybe this phone box is broken, or it was bought when a lot of people had the opportunity to buy a phone box in the 80’s. It was the “grim years” of Great Britain because of public ownership; the government required money and wanted to reduce the maintenance costs. With this aim in view, the government changed the phone boxes in the streets, in order to have the most recent and cheapest models. Margaret Thatcher, the Prime Minister at that time, was very important and symbolic: she was the first woman Prime Minister! And she really helped Great Britain to have more money.
I think this picture is very interesting and beautiful. It’s composed of a lot of colours and it’s unusual. Additionally, this displaced phone box, evokes the memory of England's history and the old problems of the country.

You say: "It is most certainly taken..." then you say "it is not certain". You can't have it both ways. You could say "It was probably taken...but it is not certain".

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Modifié par notrepere le 18-05-2012 07:37




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